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	<title>Comments on: Downing Tweet: is this about the personal, celebrity or patronage?</title>
	<link>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/</link>
	<description>Social media, active citizens, podcasting, neighbourhoods and more.</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Intertwingled &#171; watfordgap&#8217;s travels</title>
		<link>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-69407</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] A particular one mentioned more than once  was the merits of the HMGOV and DowningStreet twitter streams (which are here and here) and in relation to the previous paragraph - what reason are you / am I signing up to these two feeds for? Is it to get all press releases from HMGOV (useful if dull) or to feel more connected to what happens inside No. 10 (voyeuristic and dynamic)? HMGOV is a one way broadcast, DowningStreet is a conversation, but who is listening? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A particular one mentioned more than once  was the merits of the HMGOV and DowningStreet twitter streams (which are here and here) and in relation to the previous paragraph &#8211; what reason are you / am I signing up to these two feeds for? Is it to get all press releases from HMGOV (useful if dull) or to feel more connected to what happens inside No. 10 (voyeuristic and dynamic)? HMGOV is a one way broadcast, DowningStreet is a conversation, but who is listening? [...]</p>
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		<title>by: Podnosh Blog &#187; Archive &#187; Downing Tweet : and so the conversation begins.</title>
		<link>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-68260</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-68260</guid>
					<description>[...] Here on Podnosh we were asking if this was anything special and what the social web might mean for politics and patronage, as we all potentially dance the merry dance of getting digitally close to those in power. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here on Podnosh we were asking if this was anything special and what the social web might mean for politics and patronage, as we all potentially dance the merry dance of getting digitally close to those in power. [...]</p>
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		<title>by: watfordgap</title>
		<link>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-68182</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-68182</guid>
					<description>Nick

Thanks for the heads up.

I 

Rush for signup to 10 Downing Street feed ... I could liken it to funding the Third Sector. For example new funding is announced and meeting to tell all is convened ... many people turn up of which 75% are only there because they smell the money, its the other 25% that want to see it make a difference that matter. 
The comparison ... rush for early adoption on 10 Downing Street feed is it because people have a sniff that the hallowed office will throw out some really meaty news and the hype causes more to follow so they don't miss out?

I went for HMGOV as it is more about where i'm at - I'm one of the 25% that cares about all the news and press releases in that feed (thanks Justin!) and how these can impact my work and those of the Third Sector, Communities and Local Groups that I work with.

Perhaps this is a Central Govt / Third Sector comparion that doesn't quite fit ... just my 2p's worth.

Still uneasy about Twitter being used for direct newsfeeds as its takes away the personalisation aimed for by the &quot;What are you doing?&quot; question, however there is a place for a service proving simple mass market opt-in feeds of news ... what I wouldn't want Twitter to become was overloaded with Spam feeds offering news from TV shows, or worse Spam feeds. I guess as you have to opt in it won't happen but I do foresee us all getting swamped with &quot;Busty Sarah&quot; and &quot;Pills Unlimited&quot; want to follow you requests!

Paul Webster / watfordgap
NAVCA - ICT Infrastructure Support and Development</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick</p>
<p>Thanks for the heads up.</p>
<p>I </p>
<p>Rush for signup to 10 Downing Street feed &#8230; I could liken it to funding the Third Sector. For example new funding is announced and meeting to tell all is convened &#8230; many people turn up of which 75% are only there because they smell the money, its the other 25% that want to see it make a difference that matter. <br />
The comparison &#8230; rush for early adoption on 10 Downing Street feed is it because people have a sniff that the hallowed office will throw out some really meaty news and the hype causes more to follow so they don&#8217;t miss out?</p>
<p>I went for HMGOV as it is more about where i&#8217;m at &#8211; I&#8217;m one of the 25% that cares about all the news and press releases in that feed (thanks Justin!) and how these can impact my work and those of the Third Sector, Communities and Local Groups that I work with.</p>
<p>Perhaps this is a Central Govt / Third Sector comparion that doesn&#8217;t quite fit &#8230; just my 2p&#8217;s worth.</p>
<p>Still uneasy about Twitter being used for direct newsfeeds as its takes away the personalisation aimed for by the &#8220;What are you doing?&#8221; question, however there is a place for a service proving simple mass market opt-in feeds of news &#8230; what I wouldn&#8217;t want Twitter to become was overloaded with Spam feeds offering news from TV shows, or worse Spam feeds. I guess as you have to opt in it won&#8217;t happen but I do foresee us all getting swamped with &#8220;Busty Sarah&#8221; and &#8220;Pills Unlimited&#8221; want to follow you requests!</p>
<p>Paul Webster / watfordgap<br />
NAVCA &#8211; ICT Infrastructure Support and Development</p>
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		<title>by: Nick Booth</title>
		<link>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67965</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67965</guid>
					<description>Matt, First thank you, 

Next, being an early follower has one advantage when it comes to patronage - the eyes of the most influential are quite(most?) likely to be on a project at it's launch, so jumping on it then may catch their eyea.   I don't want to sound too cynical because I'm not, yet I do think there are interesting questions around politicians and civil servants using the social web and people seeking the benefits of being connected too them.  Especially if we can persuade them to use the web more as individuals rather than institutions. 

I think useful paralells are found between the guidelines for civil servants and the bbc guidelines on using the social web, llargely because journalists are expected to be named individuals, even though they are acting on behalf or a corporation.  These were comparisons made by a number of folk during the civil serf shennigans. 

Try

http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/?p=1901</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, First thank you, </p>
<p>Next, being an early follower has one advantage when it comes to patronage &#8211; the eyes of the most influential are quite(most?) likely to be on a project at it&#8217;s launch, so jumping on it then may catch their eyea.   I don&#8217;t want to sound too cynical because I&#8217;m not, yet I do think there are interesting questions around politicians and civil servants using the social web and people seeking the benefits of being connected too them.  Especially if we can persuade them to use the web more as individuals rather than institutions. </p>
<p>I think useful paralells are found between the guidelines for civil servants and the bbc guidelines on using the social web, llargely because journalists are expected to be named individuals, even though they are acting on behalf or a corporation.  These were comparisons made by a number of folk during the civil serf shennigans. </p>
<p>Try</p>
<p><a href='http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/?p=1901' rel='nofollow'>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/?p=1901</a></p>
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		<title>by: Why @DowningStreet is better than @HMGov &#171; extended reach</title>
		<link>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67956</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67956</guid>
					<description>[...] I&amp;#8217;m really pleased that the take up of Downing Street twitter feed has been so significant, as Nick Booth points out, there wasn&amp;#8217;t exactly a rush to follow the HMGov tool when I published it.  It&amp;#8217;s how the take up occurred that I find really interesting. As Simon Dickson said &amp;#8216;Just as interesting: I think I broke the story when I mentioned it to my own (relatively) select band of Twitter contacts. I was subscriber no3. Two hours later, we’re up to 23. Word travels fast.&amp;#8217; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m really pleased that the take up of Downing Street twitter feed has been so significant, as Nick Booth points out, there wasn&#8217;t exactly a rush to follow the HMGov tool when I published it.  It&#8217;s how the take up occurred that I find really interesting. As Simon Dickson said &#8216;Just as interesting: I think I broke the story when I mentioned it to my own (relatively) select band of Twitter contacts. I was subscriber no3. Two hours later, we’re up to 23. Word travels fast.&#8217; [...]</p>
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		<title>by: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67951</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67951</guid>
					<description>Nick,

I agree that it should be about govt individuals rather than organisations, hopefully this is a step in the right direction to make that happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>I agree that it should be about govt individuals rather than organisations, hopefully this is a step in the right direction to make that happen.</p>
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		<title>by: Matt W</title>
		<link>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67924</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67924</guid>
					<description>PS Excellent title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS Excellent title.</p>
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		<title>by: Matt W</title>
		<link>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67923</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67923</guid>
					<description>I don't think that being an early follower gives any advantage - I *think* that new ones are added at the top (which makes sense since it equalises exposure).  Not a patch on the move Simon made when he put a case study on the ex-Civil Serf blog site.

I was quite flabbergasted that they didn't claim 10downingstreet (which fits in with the website).

There are interesting possibilities in giving an alternative viewpoint (which would be following the precedent of what happens - for example - on number10.org.uk).

scottishgov simply follows on from some mild satire I did when they pulled the rebranding stunt in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that being an early follower gives any advantage &#8211; I <strong>think</strong> that new ones are added at the top (which makes sense since it equalises exposure).  Not a patch on the move Simon made when he put a case study on the ex-Civil Serf blog site.</p>
<p>I was quite flabbergasted that they didn&#8217;t claim 10downingstreet (which fits in with the website).</p>
<p>There are interesting possibilities in giving an alternative viewpoint (which would be following the precedent of what happens &#8211; for example &#8211; on number10.org.uk).</p>
<p>scottishgov simply follows on from some mild satire I did when they pulled the rebranding stunt in the first place.</p>
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		<title>by: Paul Caplan</title>
		<link>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67922</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67922</guid>
					<description>I assumed the Gov was following me anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assumed the Gov was following me anyway.</p>
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		<title>by: Nick Booth</title>
		<link>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67920</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67920</guid>
					<description>Scott :wink: 

Justin thanks for the comment and congrats.  It's interesting to see your motive for the HMGOV feed - as a personal tool which others can share (and presumably to encourage experimentation in Govt). 

That undermines my argument that particular tools are supposed to be personal.  In truth they should be what we make of them and what they will let us use them for.  Just because a hammer is intended for bashing nails doesn't mean it won't almost make a might fine doorstop.

I do though think the cultural argument of govt individuals rather than govt organsiations on the social web will take a good while to sink-in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott  <img src='http://www.podnosh.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Justin thanks for the comment and congrats.  It&#8217;s interesting to see your motive for the HMGOV feed &#8211; as a personal tool which others can share (and presumably to encourage experimentation in Govt). </p>
<p>That undermines my argument that particular tools are supposed to be personal.  In truth they should be what we make of them and what they will let us use them for.  Just because a hammer is intended for bashing nails doesn&#8217;t mean it won&#8217;t almost make a might fine doorstop.</p>
<p>I do though think the cultural argument of govt individuals rather than govt organsiations on the social web will take a good while to sink-in.</p>
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		<title>by: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67917</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67917</guid>
					<description>Hi Nick,

I actually built the HMGOV twitter feed. For me it was something that I needed because I like to use twitter and wanted to keep track of government press notices. Its not an official Gov product but I know that there are a couple of people in government that are using it - and have subscribed to the RSS feed.

Your points about patronage are spot on - unfortunately I don't quite have the pulling power of the Prime Minister.

It will be interesting to see how this develops. I was quite surprised to receive an email from the downing street service to say they are now following me, so perhaps there really is the potential for this to be about dialogue and not broadcasting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick,</p>
<p>I actually built the HMGOV twitter feed. For me it was something that I needed because I like to use twitter and wanted to keep track of government press notices. Its not an official Gov product but I know that there are a couple of people in government that are using it &#8211; and have subscribed to the RSS feed.</p>
<p>Your points about patronage are spot on &#8211; unfortunately I don&#8217;t quite have the pulling power of the Prime Minister.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how this develops. I was quite surprised to receive an email from the downing street service to say they are now following me, so perhaps there really is the potential for this to be about dialogue and not broadcasting.</p>
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		<title>by: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67912</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.podnosh.com/blog/2008/03/28/downingstreettwitter/#comment-67912</guid>
					<description>I'm curious about 10 Downing Street following twitters - does this mean they actually want to know what we think? ... I thought not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious about 10 Downing Street following twitters &#8211; does this mean they actually want to know what we think? ... I thought not.</p>
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